CABINET/RICK PERRY/DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY: "Well, let me answer the question that you asked earlier ['Three programs that would make — would have to be cut to make Americans feel pain, to sacrifice if we're going to balance the budget?'], what are the three areas that you would make some reductions that people would feel some pain. And I will tell you, it would be those bureaucrats at the Department of Commerce and — and Energy and Education that we’re going to do away with."
– “Republican Candidates Debate in Concord, New Hampshire,” Jan. 8, 2012, Rick Perry, Transcript, 1/8/2017